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Fresh
Air
host Terry Gross' first book, All I Did Was Ask, is
a compilation of some of her most captivating interviews with
legendary artists, actors, musicians and authors who have appeared
over the years on the daily NPR program. You can recieve an
autographed copy when you pledge
your support to WHYY, but before you pick up yours, treat
yourself to a brief excerpt from Gross' introduction, at right.
You can also sample a snippet of the journalist's interview
with comedian Conan O'Brien, who is featured in All I Did
Was Ask. Gross will appear on O'Brien's show on NBC, Late
Night with Conan O'Brien, on Wednesday, September 22.
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Excerpted
from All I Did Was Ask by Terry Gross. Copyright ©
Terry Gross and WHYY.
Introduction
| All I Did Was Ask
"I'm
Terry Gross, and this is Fresh Air …
But this
is a book, not a radio show. You may be wondering what the point
is of reading interviews that were meant to be listened to.
I've asked myself that. But in going through transcripts in
preparation for this book, I was pleasantly surprised that so
many of the interviews I remembered as having been good radio
also made for enjoyable reading. In reading the ones gathered
here -- I probably shouldn't admit this -- I've learned things
from them that went right by me in the studio…
I try
in my interviews to find the connections between my guests'
lives and their work (the reason we care about them in the first
place). I'd love to know how Chris Rock got to be so funny,
how Dennis Hopper developed his screen presence, how John Updike
became a great writer. Unfortunately, these kinds of questions
are often unanswerable. Craft goes only so far in explaining
how an artist uses his gift, and the gift itself is often inexplicable.
Autobiography provides an alternate route -- a seeming detour
that may ultimately tell us something about an artist's sensibility
and the experiences that shaped it. At the very least, the kind
of interview I do offers me, and the show's listeners, an opportunity
to learn more about someone whose work has moved and delighted
us and perhaps, in some small way, altered our perceptions of
ourselves and the world."
Mom,
Dad, I Want To Be A Tap Dancer Conan O'Brien | All I Did
Was Ask
"I
recorded my first interview with O'Brien in 1996, after public
opinion about his show began to change in his favor. My second
interview with him was in 2003, just before his prime-time tenth
anniversary special. What follows combines questions from both
of these interviews.
Terry
Gross: When the show was first on the air, did you watch yourself
every night to get an idea of what was working and what wasn't?
Conan
O'Brien: Yeah, yeah I did. Once I got over the shock
of just how fat my Irish head is, I started to make adjustments,
a lot of them visual. Okay, the lighting's all wrong. I'm wearing
too much makeup -- I look orange. I'm a big rockabilly fan so
I got into the habit of combing my hair up and out, like Eddie
Cochran. For the first six months of the show, I had this giant
pompadour that was knocking klieg lights out in the studio.
It was frightening viewers, so I combed my hair down a bit.
TG:
I imagine when you started to do the show, you had to create
a TV version of Conan O'Brien. Would you talk about the process
of figuring out who you would be?
O'Brien:
A lot of the good stuff, if we want to qualify any
of it as good stuff, is unconscious. These silly, weird abstract
thing that I do on the show, like pretending to pull my hips
with a string or licking my eyebrows or growling, it's stuff
that I was probably doing on a playground when I was eight years
old. It just comes out of me. If I have any persona on the show,
it would be the guy who has mistakenly been given a late-night
talk show, but he's going to do it anyway. I mean, I don't come
out in an appropriate authoritative way. I jump around, I hiss
at the camera, I hide from the camera, I start weeping openly.
I do all these things that a talk-show host probably should
do, and for some reason it seems to work for me.
TG:
As a teenager, did you behave around the girls the way you do
around the attractive actresses on your show, growling at them
and playing "the comic guy"?
O'Brien:
Sadly, yes, and I'm being serious about that because
if you grew up the way I did -- a fairly repressed Irish-Catholic
-- you're too scared to try anything. You're fascinated by women,
you want to make them laugh, so there's the whole bag of tricks
you do -- but God forbid any of them ever made a move towards
you. Then you'd run for the hills. That's where the whole persona
came from. You always had the idea with Bob Hope that if he
ever got Dorothy Lamour, he wouldn't know what the hell to do
with her. He'd be panic-stricken.
TG:
You took tap dance lessons when you were nine years old, didn't
you?
O'Brien:
That's right. Nobody forced me. That's the sad part.
I think the story is much less frightening when you say, "Well,
my parents made me." But it's scary to think that a nine-year-old
boy says, "Mom, Dad, I want to be a tap dancer." You
think, "What is with this kid?"
TG:
I find it really endearing that a nine-year-old would want to
learn a form that's become pretty archaic.
O'Brien:
I knew when I was young I wanted to be in show business.
My view of show business at the time was based on the movies
that they ran on Channel 56, which was the UHF station in Boston
when I was growing up. They used to show movies from the forties,
like Yankee Doodle Dandy and On the Town.
As this little kid, I didn't have a sense, "Well, this
movie was made a long time ago." I didn't know. I'm still,
to this day, not that bright.
But I
would watch these movies like Yankee Doodle Dandy
with Jimmy Cagney, and he's singing and tap-dancing. I thought
if you want to be in show business, you've got to be able to
tell a joke, put a song across, but most importantly, you have
to be able to break into a ten-minute tap dance at any moment.
So I went to my parents and said, "I got to take tap dance
lessons." They considered that for a few days as said,
"All right, he really wants to do it." They hooked
me up with a guy named Stanley Brown. He was this older black
gentleman who had been the protégé of Bill "Bojangles"
Robinson, the great tap dancer who'd been in all those Shirley
Temple movies.
I really
got hooked up with the master. And remember, I was this nine-year-old,
really pale, round-faced kid with bright, bright orange hair.
My dad would drop me off on his way to work on Saturday mornings
in a part of Boston that's right near the Berklee College of
Music. I would walk up this rickety, old ten flights of steps
into his dance studio. And it would be all twenty-four-year-old
black men and women, and then one orange-haired, freckled kid
sitting there, holding his shoes in a box.
I did
that for a number of years until Stanley Brown passed away.
Thin I got this huge growth spurt. I grew to six-foot-four in
a day. It was like I was irradiated or something. I lost all
my coordination, and tap dancing fell by the wayside.
TG:
Did you have a sense of rhythm when you were nine?
O'Brien:
Since we're on radio, I'll just say, yes, I did. And
by the way, I'm extremely handsome right now, for those of you
who can't see me." |